Thursday, October 27, 2011

Me and Dustin's Politics discussion! Part 1?

5:01pm
Eh.
It does affect everyone.
Or atleast I think.
not to much... they're trying to make everyone equal? thats not gonna happen... they sound like commies to me..
They aren't trying to make everyone equal in that sense.
economically
isn't that what they did?
No they want to tax the rich more.
They still want capitalism, just to help fix the wealth gap.
ah.. i don't think that'll ever happen
No. Because all the rich people control everything.
yeah... because they worked their way up
NO. Some of them didn't, and are just rich because of stupid reasons, like Miley Cyrus.
she sings...
Or rich because their parents are.
And not well.
they inherit it
she still makes money on her own
and it shouldn't be any of our business what other people do with their money
but shouldn't they be taxed to the same extent we are? I don't think it's right to restrict how much their taxes can be
we're taxed on a percentage
they pay the same percent
the only thing we should change is no tax breaks for businesses
I think there should be tax breaks for small buisnesses creating jobs.
if i were rich and worked to earn my money by doing whatever it is i did, i wouldn't want poor people wanting to make me pay more because they think it's unfair
i don't believe that's true.. tax breaks for no one keeps it fair...
the government can't afford it currently anyway
so..
wait
i take back my so
Rich get tax loopholes.
hold on let me read
Ok
This article is primarily about the 1% they talk about in the protests
thats what i meant by tax break.. i didn't know what they were called, it should be a standard 30% regardless how much you make
I don't think that's fair though. We should definitely make exceptions for the people below poverty line, and the people in lower middle class.
The government shouldn't use taxes in a way that represses the lower classes.
i don't agree... most of them are pot heads living off of food stamps... i know it's not everybody, but a large majority are
like my uncle who's to lazy to get a job
I don't think thats altoghether true. And that's because the agencies aren't paid enough by the government to actually make sure the people need the assistance.
If the government spent more money on those agencies, they would save money.
they have no money
So how does the government get money? One step would be to make sure the rich are getting taxed appropriately.
it work be by making sure everyone is taxed equally...
20% is doable by most people, if it's not, they're not trying hard enough imo
by the way I'm imagining I'm having this conversation with a platypus.
i like platypuses
lol
Plus, don't forget that people have medicare, and social security to pay for too.
yup
people live way above their means
I'm not denying that America is the richest country, and it definitely could do more in the rest of the world.
Not to mention that poverty here can encompass like 90% of some African countries...
i'm just saying if people would stop blowing there money on crap they don't need, they would be fine living AND paying taxes
if they choose to waste their money, they shouldn't receive help
But can you expect people to just get by when everyone else is living to the extreme? Gah, I just wish socialism would work sometimes.
i don't
Why not? So much would get done. We wouldn't have to worry about destroying the planet, we wouldn't have poverty...
It sounds pretty good to me.
life's not fair, it never will be.. people just need to get over that... some people are delt better hands.. the only way to change that is by working hard at something.. and if they don't want to it's their choice
no one would have any motive to do better when everyone is eaqual
But can you really do anything if you "buckle down"? People in Africa can't become doctors unless they are really lucky.
equal*
walk to a city
find a job
idk
it's my best guess
but i doubt many even try
HOW? When they are in the middle of nowhere in Africa, how can they get a job? Everywhere in that area is poor.
It's rediculous to think that everyone can do anything when we weren't given the same opprotunities.
if i were in Africa, age 17, with no schooling, and i knew of everything going on in the outside would, i would not just be sitting around... i'd get the hell out of their
Okay, walk 500 miles over rough terain, with no shoes, no food, no clean water. Tell me how that works out.
The above was said in the nicest way possible.
would you rather live in dirt huts the rest of your life?
i wouldn't
i'd do it once and get it over with
they have animals
but it's just not possible! If everyone tried that, they would die.
to ride on
and carry things with
Not all of them!
it's not like they're but naked with no knowledge of how to survive
Do you think that they have horses or something? Maybe mules, but those can only go so far.
And they're a comoditie! The village essentially depends on them.
And there is no guarentee that a starved african child can find a job in the city. There's poor people there too fighting for jobs.

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